Jimmy Cavanaugh and Tony Adragna are back with another edition of the Hoosier Hotline. The duo talks everything IU Basketball, including the Northwestern game, Verdell Jones, and Cody Zeller.
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CrimsonCast Live 02.13.12
CrimsonCast Live is back for another week (and a day early, thanks to Valentine’s Day). This week’s topics focus on the next slate of games IU has in front of them, as Northwestern and Iowa loom in the next seven days. We also tackle “that conversation”, i.e., where Verdell Jones fits in a suddenly revitalized offense and defense. We also talk about IU’s potential in the Big Ten Tournament, and whether the 5 seed might not be preferable to the 4 seed at Conseco in March.
Special guest for this podcast is Mike Portscheller of Big Ten Geeks. This episode also features comments and commentary from Scott, Matt Blaszka, Chronic Hoosier, Mike Petry, and a late-in-the-game call from Tanner.
After the Buzzer: Illinois
Final Score:
Indiana: 84
Illinois: 71
No doubt coming into Thursday night’s game the biggest story of the game was going to be: Was Cody Zeller going to be able to hand the 7’1″ athletic freak that is, Meyers Leonard? Early on, it looked as if Zeller and the Hoosiers were going to have their hands full all night with the big man with the backwards name. Leonard had 9 points in the first seven minutes of the game and looked determined as ever to take it right at the Big Ten’s best freshman big man. Just as he has done all season, Zeller didn’t get rattled or fazed of Leonard’s early success. He simply just let the game play out.
After a back and forth first half, the Hoosiers starting to attack into the teeth of the Fighting Illini’s defense. Eight minutes into the second half, Indiana was already able to force Illinois into 8 team fouls, three of them by Leonard. After Meyers picked up his fourth foul and went to the bench, the Hoosiers slowly started to pull away from this Fighting Illini squad. Depth is a key problem for Illinois and it started to show late in the second half.
Indiana proved to be too much for Illinois. The key stat in this game were free throws. The Hoosiers shot just as many free throws as they did field goals (42), which is ridiculous if you think about it. To shoot as many as they did and still knock them down at 83% is impressive.
The Hoosiers brought a balanced attack that was ultimately just too much to handle. Hulls, Watford, Oladipo, and Zeller all had at least 15 points. It is always a good sign when your starting lineup attributes that much to a game. The bench didn’t do bad but, simply put, Indiana didn’t need them to score because of how well the others were playing.
IU will get its first weekend free from any games for the first time since the middle of December. The team looks no where near gassed, but an off weekend can be key for the Hoosiers to rest up after a rough stretch of games that have occurred in the past month and a half. I can remember last year when Tom Crean celebrated in the lobby with us when the Hoosiers knocked off Illinois last year. Oh, how times have changed.
Team Grade: A
Looking Forward- Next week, the Hoosiers get the last of the “single-play” games they will play this year when Northwestern comes to Bloomington on Wednesday. The Wildcats struggled at first in conference but have turned things around and won three in a row. They will face Purdue on Sunday, if you are interested in seeing what kind of team they bring. They will come into Assembly hungry as ever, trying to get their first ever tournament appearance.
Hoosier Hotline – 2/8/2012
Tony Adragna and Jimmy Cavanaugh are back with the Hoosier Hotline, this time talking Indiana’s huge win at Purdue, and they look ahead to the Illinois contest. Aside from that, the duo talks about Indiana’s ranking in the Big Ten, and where they see the Hoosiers being seeded in the NCAA Tournament.
Pre-Game Meal: ILLINOIS
Opponent: Illinois Fighting Illini (16-7, 5-5)
Series Record: Tied 83-83
Last Meeting:3/5/11 The Illini thumped Indiana 72-48(and it wasn’t really that close,) to close out the regular season.
Last IU win: 1/27/11 A thrilling 52-49 victory which led to Hoosier students storming the court in celebration of IU’s first win over a ranked opponent in the Tom Crean era. Little did the students know there were going to be better reasons to storm the court in the next season.
A different team from last year: If IU thinks it will be able to just breeze through a 52-49 walk in the park like last year, it has another thing coming. This is a completely different Illinois team. The trio of Mike Davis, Mike Tisdale, and Demetri McCamey are gone. Their production has been mostly replaced by a new trio who is sure to be as big of a pain in the ass; DJ Richardson, Brandon Paul, and Meyers Leonard. All three were with the team last year, but have taken on much larger roles this season. Of the three, the 7’2″ Leonard’s ascent has been the most noticeable. He’s gone from averaging 2.1 points and 1.2 rebounds per game to 13.3 and 8. To put that in perspective, it’s almost as good as replacing Bobby Capobianco’s production with Cody Zeller’s. Wouldn’t that be something if a team could manage that.
Stat to win friends and influence people: The absolute takeaway from the Hoosiers win over Purdue was the defensive effort and execution fans have been clamoring for. IU held Purdue to .91 points per possession, almost .2 below their average. As a comparison, it was essentially like taking what IU has done on average all season and making it look like the Hoosiers did against Wisconsin. What made it more impressive in my mind was that the Hoosiers forced only 3 turnovers. IU simply limited the good shots for most of the game, and when Purdue missed, IU didn’t allow many offensive rebounds. If IU can play defense like that for the rest of the season, there are few teams who can match up to the Hoosiers firepower on offense.
Gratuitous Bruce Weber Cheap Shot: Unfortunately for Mr. Weber, his record is trending downward at the worst possible time. Weber is now in his 9th season as head coach of the Illini, he took over a loaded team from Bill Self and to his credit brought them to the doorstep of a National Championship in his 2nd year. You might remember Sean May and the Tarheels beating Illinois in this game, if you do, you’re a better fan than me. Since then his record has been mixed to say the least. He’s missed the tournament twice and last year’s run to the Sweet Sixteen with a senior laden squad was the only time he’s seen the 2nd weekend of the NCAA’s in the last 7 years. And as the seat is getting warmer, he also has to deal with a new Athletic Director. Mike Thomas, came over from the University of Cincinnati and immediately began cleaning house by replacing the enigma known as Ron Zook. Which leads me to….
Gratuitous Jack Trudeau cheap shot: You might remember the gratuitous cheap shots became an official headingafter Trudeau promised to “have his old buddy Zooker” run the score up on Kevin Wilson and the Hoosiers. Well he might have accomplished that, but apparantly Wilson gets the last laugh as both Trudeau and Zooker were let go within weeks of each other. Far be it from me to do something as classless as kicking a man when he’s lost his job. But that’s why I trust in my readers to do it for me.
Scouting Future Opponents:
Northwestern Hosts Iowa Thursday at 9.
North Carolina Central hosts Savannah State on Saturday.
Prediction: Much to my dismay, they won’t make Leonard Part 7. 
Though Meyers Leonard will pose an interesting and new challenge to IU’s talented freshman forward, the surrounding talent won’t be enough as Victor Oladipo continues his defensive renaissance in locking down Brandon Paul. IU wins 78-65.
The Pre-Game Meal’s Triumphant Return
Opponent: Purdue Boilermakers (15-7, 5-4) 
Last Meeting: JaJuan Johnson took advantage of Indiana’s non-existent interior game and led all scorers with 20 points. The Boilers led by 10 at halftime and cruised to a 72-61 victory.
Last IU win: Way back in the Kelvin Sampson era. Eric Gordon scored 22 points while DJ White scored 19 with 14 rebounds in a 77-68 Hoosier victory. Of course that wasn’t the story. IU last beat Purdue on February 19,2009. Kelvin Sampson was relieved of his duties as head coach on February 22.
Everyone still itching to play this one? In the midst of IU’s brilliant 15-1 start, there is no team Indiana fans looked forward to playing than the Purdue Boilermakers. And with good reason. While Indiana struggled to keep the program above water in Tom Crean’s first three years, the Boilers were enjoying a sustained run of quality play, led by the recently graduated E’Twaun Moore and JaJuan Johnson. So during IU’s impressive streak, IU fans knew that vindication was on the horizon with what were sure to be two quality beat downs of the rivals. Then came the loss at home to Minnesota. And the one on the road to Nebraska. And the 5 losses in 7 games. Now IU fans are fearing yet another road loss and another February collapse by the Hoosiers.
Three reasons to panic: 1) The Hoosier defense is truly horrific. Whatever metric you want to use, Points per Game, Points per Possession , Total points, the IU defense is awful. Only once in B1G Ten play has IU held an opponent to less than a point per possession. Even with IU’s sometimes prolific offense, that’s a lot of pressure to keep up.
2) The rebounding on both offense and defense can be non-existent. This is actually very related to the first problem. Because IU has such awful transition defense, the Hoosiers can’t risk sending extra bodies after offensive rebounds, and on defense the Hoosiers are repeatedly caught out of position to not only defend a first chance but also to prevent a second chance.
3) Recent history doesn’t bode well. With the loss on Wednesday to Michigan, Tom Crean’s record in February and March fell to 3 and 30. More than the mind numbingly painful 2-30 conference road record, the record at the end of the season shows how IU’s lack of depth has come back to haunt the Hoosiers. After the loss, Crean said he was looking for “Warriors” in February. Perhaps he should just be looking for fresh bodies.
Three reasons for optimism: 1) The schedule gets to be slightly more favorable. While Tom Crean’s road history gives one pause, it should be noted that IU has gotten the hardest road games out of its system. And while there are obvious concerns about a 5-6 record, 6 of the 11 games were against what has become a clear top 4 in the conference including 4 on the road The B1G Ten schedule makers made up for IU only playing Wisconsin in Madison by keeping the Hoosiers only game against Illinois inside the comfy confines of the real Assembly Hall. Of the top four teams in the B1G Ten, IU plays only one, Michigan State, and that will be at home.
2) Contributions have come from a variety of sources. On the one hand it would be nice if IU could get consistent production from its stars. On the other hand, it’s been nice to know that Tom Crean can go to his bench and get productive minutes from four or five different sources. Remy Abell, Matt Roth, Tom Pritchard, and whichever of the Victor Oladipo/Will Sheehey duo is not starting have all come off the bench and given the Hoosiers something at different points. But the biggest contribution has come from Derek Elston who scored 20 points in his last two games. Of course Elston has teased IU fans in the past with spurts of 3-4 good games, but hopefully this time it sticks.
3) If this is the worst run of play, IU will be fine. Every team plays above its talent level for a few weeks and will play substandard basketball for a few weeks, but if the last three weeks end up being the worst stretch IU sees all season then there’s no doubt the Hoosiers will have met or exceeded nearly everyone’s expectations.
Illinois hosts Northwestern on Saturday. Bruce Weber once again lobbies unsuccessfully for the back cut to be ruled unconstitutional.
Iowa hosts Penn State and tries to prove that there is in fact a worst defensive team than Indiana.
Prediction: Making fun of Purdue’s Yellow P will never get old. Despite the wailing and gnashing of teeth, I’m actually not so concerned about this one. Purdue’s greatest offensive virtue is its ability to avoid turnovers, but I think IU makes just enough shots to walk off the big combover with a 78-71 victory.
After the Buzzer: Wisconsin
Final Score:
Wisconsin: 57
Indiana: 50
This game played out like many expected it would. Low possessions, low scoring, and few turnovers is exactly the type of game Wisconsin plays for. Bo Ryan’s teams have always done three things extremely well:
- They play true “team” defense.
- They take care of the ball.
- They have huge white dudes.
Everybody knew coming into the game that, although IU was the top scoring team in the conference, they wouldn’t be given any easy looks at the rim. That didn’t stop Verdell Jones from taking it right at the Badgers in the first half. He was super-impressive in the first half, to the point where I was screaming at Crean to get him back in the game. For the record, I have never done that in my life. If Oladipo can’t get out of his funk he has been in as of late, Verdell provides the Hoosiers’ only liable penetrator. Verdell played like a senior and was able to turn a lot of his haters to lovers for a brief period. He was shut down in the second half and could easily have been a vital reason for why the Hoosiers came up short Thursday night.
Cody Zeller never got going due to some, quite frankly, horrible calls by the joke they call Big Ten officiating. You could tell he was in no groove and it was never more evident than the air-ball he threw up in the biggest play of the game. After watching this game, Chad Ford may be rethinking about putting Cody so high on his draft board. The Wisconsin bigs, especially Jared Berrgren, stood strong and denied Cody on multiple lay-ups and dunk attempts.
The most impressive thing I found from this game was IU’s defense. Despite some breakdowns late in the game, this was the best team defense I have seen this team play against a team like Wisconsin. The Badgers don’t have the most elite offense, by far, but the Hoosiers showed so much improvement in this game from the Minnesota and Nebraska games. They were rotating so well and made Jordan Taylor’s night one to forget. However, all the positives can be overlooked because of the breakdowns late in the game, like giving Brust open threes or giving up crucial offensive rebounds late in the game.
All-in-all Indiana showed some grit and toughness in a somewhat hostile environment but are still a long way from being a team that can successfully win on the road. The tough part of their conference season is in the rear-view mirror and the rest of the way looks a lot less tough. It wouldn’t be far-fetched to believe this team could win out the rest of their regular season games. Their biggest challenges are gonna be Michigan State at home and Purdue and Michigan on the road, but those are all winnable for this team. The Big Ten is never that giving though, and I don’t expect them to actually win out but the real possibility of it happening is still reassuring.
Team Grade- C+
Looking Forward- Indiana is home Sunday to face the Hawkeyes of Iowa in a game the Hoosiers can’t afford to give away or the wheels may be coming off for this once top-ten team. Iowa is coming off back-to-back close losses to Purdue and Nebraska and I guarantee Melsahn Basabe doesn’t forget the Shee-bagging he got last year.
Photo credit: (AP Photo/Andy Manis)
Live pregame show announced, starts tonight at 7:30 PM
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Hoosier Hotline podcast 1.25.12
On this inaugural episode of Hoosier Hotline, Tony Adragna and Jimmy Cavanaugh address a number of issues relating to Indiana University basketball. Among the issues discussed are the current defensive approach to the games, the offensive lineup, and the team’s substitution patterns. Tony and Jimmy also discuss IU’s chances against Wisconsin, and what they have facing them in the remainder of the Big Ten season. Several callers join the show, including AskTheWho and Jason from BTownBanners, and ChronicHoosier.
After the Buzzer: Nebraska
Final Score:
Nebraska: 70
Indiana: 69
Indiana basketball is on the verge of a crisis. The team that won 15 of their first 16 games no longer looks fearless, confident, and assertive. They have transformed into the timid, sloppy, and passive team that Hoosier fans have become so accustomed to in the last 3 years. In the blink of an eye, IU is on a 3-game losing streak and what looked like a Year For the Ages type of season is well out the window.
So who is to blame? I have about 50 answers to that question but I am going to put my 3 most important reasons for their recent play.
- Tom Crean. I have backed Crean throughout his whole career but I have to finally take my blinders off and it’s time for me to be critical of him. This team’s lack of adjustment before/during the game is aggravating beyond measure. It is so easy for a team to scout us because we aren’t going to change anything offensively. If teams are going to hedge our handoffs and ballscreens, how about game-planning a counter play for that hedge or simply try running a different offense. Jordan Hulls is an excellent shooter but he is not going to be able to dribble around the huge, athletic big men in the Big Ten.
- The players. While it is Crean’s job to put the player’s in a position to succeed, it ultimately comes down to their execution. Crean can bark at Watford and Zeller to block out all he wants, but if they don’t have the hustle or determination to do so, it won’t get done. Communication can be hard in a college atmosphere, but the good teams get it done. IU should have watched Michigan against Michigan State to see how a real team can execute defensively down the stretch, even if it’s a broken play.
- Lack of leadership. Compare our big wins to our big losses. UK- Verdell and Watford stay calm and connect to create what is known as “The Shot.” OSU- IU comes up with the clutch free throws and the big defensive stops it needed. MICH- Verdell hits the most clutch shot of his career and Watford hits a free throw to make it a 3-point game. And the losses: MINN- IU almost makes a great comeback but when they need a three the most, they settle for a contested three by Watford, which he misses. NEB- Cody Zeller disappears and Jordan tries to play hero but can’t come through. Add on a ton of defensive breakdowns by many players and you deserved to get court rushed. Leadership doesn’t always have to be during clutch moments, but those are when it can have the biggest effect.
If I were coach what would I do?
- If I’m not getting anything valuable out of Verdell, or any other player for that matter, then I don’t play him and try someone else. Simple as that.
- If I have a timeout at the end of the game down by 1, I’m calling it every time.
- If you don’t want to box out or play defense, you are coming out.
- I put in designed plays to get my best offensive player the ball and continue to run them until they stop it.
IU has essentially played better than anyone expected them to play at the beginning. Only to then, turn that on its self, and play worse than anyone could have expected. Is this team a top-caliber team? Or just middle of the pack? The next games will answer that for us, because right now I’m sure we are all confused who this team really is.
Looking Forward- IU is back home on Sunday for a noon tip-off game against Penn State. If IU loses this one, IU fans will be in complete panic-mode.







